Flying Squirrel Questions
This past weekend our blog post sort of wrote itself, as a friend sent an email with questions on flying squirrels. Her parents recently moved and have discovered their new home has a squirrel problem. Offered below are the back and forth emails between me, my friend Erin, and her mother Ava. These emails are offered as food for thought if you feel that you may have an issue with flying squirrels. A lot of the same information/advice given in these emails is found in other posts here on our website and in our flying squirrel videos on YouTube. And, it’s the same advice we give to Akron, Canton, Kent area residents who call us with flying squirrel problems. Email #1: A Flying Squirrel Question Hey Dom, Random quick question. My parents just bought a new place down in Virginia and have flying squirrels in the rafters apparently. They called a pest control company but are also looking for advice from anyone who has had a similar experience in getting rid of them. Any thoughts? Hope all is well in Akron. Erin Email #2: Some Basics on Flying Squirrel Removal Hi Erin. Flying squirrels are small so they can fit through small places. They usually get in where gaps exist at some structural element around roof line. Ridge vents, where dormers, loose siding, and main roof meet, where some damage exists, etc. are places where they get in. This makes them tricky and sometimes expensive to remove as 1) the house needs sealed up completely. Meaning any small gaps which exist over the surface of the house must be A) found B) sealed in an appropriate fashion. The more gaps and the more “interesting” the architecture- tall and steep, dormers. We’ve had some real challenging jobs in log homes for instance as they have so many potential spots for openings anywhere chinking was sub par. 2) Sealing works in conjunction with trapping. A trap or traps are placed over what has been identified as the main points of entrance and remains the only spot where the squirrels can get in or out. Squirrels exit and are trapped and removed over a few days. Once there are no more squirrels being caught and there is no sign of them left running around, the trap is removed and the main entrance sealed. A nuisance animal removal company should explain this sort of process. They should warranty their work for a year: meaning they will come back if more flying squirrels are heard. No company has done very many flying squirrel jobs if they’ve never missed a spot- it does happen occasionally but the return is not extra. Best case scenario for them is 1) easily identifiable entry 2) not many other potential gaps. In winter around here, some attics become communal spots where multiple family groups share abandoning their usual trees. So there is potential for more than 1-3 squirrels. They also have communal potties resulting in piles found in insulation. Removing it is not critical but acceptable if easy to get to: some people upcharge for this with scare techniques: unsavory business practice. Other upcharges some companies try to talk about right away are insulation replacement- again there is often no need for this. Take a look at our web page www.frontlineanimalremoval.com We have blogs on flyers including videos and there is a link from our main squirrel page. Info there is hopefully helpful. Hi to Mike and Orion.An Aside: Flying Squirrel Poop
I mentioned insulation and squirrel poop removal to my friend at the end of the email and the need to be cautious.
I didn’t want her parents to be taken for a ride.
I just wanted them to be cautious if the FIRST thing discussed by the removal company was clean up. We know that there are some unscrupulous companies who push this service hard.
This does not mean that clean up and insulation removal are never warranted: they sometimes are.
Check out this house, for example. See all that staining on both ends of the house? That’s from flying squirrel poop and pee! This house had quite a number of squirrels congregating in it. Clean up is recommended in a situation like this. Remember, it’s all situational.
Email #3: Mom Shares a Proposal
Hello Dominic. We are Erin’s parents.
She forwarded your response regarding the flying squirrel problem to us. Thank you for the information you provided! I’ve included the proposal we received from a local pest control company below along with pictures of tracks that were on our roof following a recent snow.
Does this proposal cover the things it should to provide removal and prevention coverage?
We have gone back to them after reading your response and asked about a warranty.
Ours is a log home but chinking between the logs isn’t an issue because it is a slab cut construction.
Thank you again for your advice and input.
Ava and Tom
The Pictures Ava Sent
Ava’s Proposal From Pest Control Company X
Thank you for your pictures.
Since there isnt an attic access.
We need to install traps under soffit on roof and monitor for at least two weeks.
We need to install brown metal on soffit under dormer eaves on roof.
Price for exclusion will be based on time and material $800-1000.00
If you have any questions please Contact me at the office
Email #4 : Reaction to Pictures and Proposals
Ava,
It sounds like they believe the main entry is where that dormer eave meets the main roof.
But, did anyone ever physically come out or just quote on the pictures?
Some of those tracks go down toward the fascia/gutter line. Is there an entry there?
The chimney, both above and under the roof, draws my eye as flying squirrels and bats love gaps at spots like those.
What sort of ridge vent is there? Has that been checked?; they are flyer hot spots.
We physically inspect (usually around $150 which is then applied against cost if job is awarded) as we believe it is hard to understand the problem without eyes/hands on.
As to the quote, it is vague.
“We need to install traps under soffit on roof” as there is no attic access seems odd to me. That makes me think they are going to put glue traps or snap traps up there. We would not do that. We would use cage traps on the outside of the house; we might attach the traps to the soffit but not remove it. To do this job we would not go into the attic with any sort of traps even if there were access.
“We need to install brown metal on soffit…” has me wondering where the metal is going to go on the soffit and why. I can’t see from the pictures but I am assuming there is brown soffit on the dormer eaves. Are they trying to cover holes or something? The quote is not clear to me as to what this plan is. If the soffit is damaged in some way it is eaiser and more aesthetically pleasing and not too expensive to replace a piece of soffit rather than to patch it. Under that eave, I would expect wildlife to get in where the eave/soffit material meets the roof.
The price isn’t bad IF the flyers are gone AND they will guarantee they won’t be back within a year. The amount of exclusion work can only be determined after a thorough inspection.
Sometimes flying squirrels are very hard to detect. Are they making noise at night in the attic space or walls? I only ask this because that one big pine I see in the picture puts red squirrels in my head. We often use a game camera at suspected entrances to confirm our suspicions, especially for nocturnal animals.
Lastly, I’ll reiterate that flying squirrel removal is a challenge. There is a definite learning curve. That said, you have contacted a pest/termite company that is local as it may be the easiest option. Make sure they have experience, real experience, with flying squirrels. We wildlife removers (traps) often clean up after the pest guys (insects and chemicals) struggle.
And, the repair work/sealing should look really good. You want animal removal expertise as well as expert construction skills.
I know nothing about them though, just a generality! They may very well be the best flying squirrel removers ever.
Dominic
p.s.- some tree trimming may be in order for further prevention. 10-12 clearance for all parts of house helps deter.
Flying Squirrel Advice for All
Hopefully, anyone who has some questions regarding flying squirrels and how they can be removed can garner something from these emails. The points we cover are pretty standard and can be found in:- Flying Squirrel Removal
- Other Flying Squirrel Removal Blog Posts
- Our YouTube Squirrel Removal Videos
We’ll inspect your home and give you a good description of what we believes need done to remedy the situation.
If you choose us, we’ll stand by our repair work so you have the assurance that your problem is going to be solved.
Flying squirrels are cute and gentle, but getting them out is often tricky. In the Akron, Canton, Kent Ohio area, let us be your experienced flying squirrel removers.